Four races, not one species — and a single anonymous post behind all of it.
THINK ABOUTIT’S ALIEN TYPE SUMMARY
Paa Tal (P’tal)
The entire documented record on the Paa Tal — commonly rendered “P’tal” — traces to a single anonymous forum post from 2013, an account its own reviewer explicitly flags as lacking credibility. What it describes is also stranger and more specific than “angelic nuclear-missile interceptors”: four distinct, named races, not one species, said to be twelve-foot elf-like beings who seeded life on Earth 500 million years ago, waged an ancient war against a Draconian figure the source calls “Satan,” and reincarnate across history as figures like Vishnu, Zeus, Shiva, and Apollo.
Name: Paa Tal (commonly rendered “P’tal”)
AKA: The Founders. Paa Tal is stated to be a Draconian word meaning “the insanely strong ones.” Three of the four member races are also called “the Golden Ones” or “High Elves.”
Location – Home System: Not a single star system. The source places their origin beyond this universe entirely, within a larger cosmological structure it calls “Orvonton,” said to contain roughly 1,000 universes, each with about 1 million habitable worlds. Our own universe, in this framework, is called “Nebadon.” Note: these two terms are borrowed, without attribution, from the 1955 book The Urantia Book.
Distance from Earth: Not applicable — described as originating outside conventional space entirely
Attitude: Framed in the source as a benevolent “father race” of this universe, in opposition to an ancient Draconian-led rebellion
Motives: Said to have seeded life on Earth and to act as caretakers of the universe on behalf of an entity the source calls “the Almighty,” generally interpreted as a reference to a Source or Creator figure
Physical Appearance: The Paa Tal are not one species but four distinct, named races. Three — Ainu-Ra, Mem-Ra, and Shin-Ra, together called “the Golden Ones” or “High Elves” — are described as existing at a 12-dimensional level, standing 12 feet (3.7 m) tall, handsome, elf-like, winged, and resembling angels in physical form; they are described as immortal. The fourth and youngest, Ashand, is described as a “Silver” elf-like race at the 10th-to-11th-dimensional level, “virtually immortal but not fully” in the way the other three are.
- Average Height: 12 feet (3.7 m) for three of the four races; undocumented for Ashand — not the 7’6″–8’4″ range previously given here
- Average Weight: Undocumented
- Body Temperature: Undocumented
- Pulse/Respiration: Undocumented
- Blood Pressure: Undocumented
- Life Expectancy: Immortal (Ainu-Ra, Mem-Ra, Shin-Ra); “virtually immortal but not fully” (Ashand)
- Hair: Undocumented
- Skin: Undocumented in specific terms, beyond the “Golden” and “Silver” naming used for the different member races
- Eyes: Undocumented
- Sex: Undocumented
Other Physical Information: Winged, angel-like appearance, per the source
Special Traits and Abilities: Said to be capable of “stellar jumping” into other universes in roughly one hour, and to reincarnate directly into historical and mythological figures across time — the source specifically claims that Vishnu and Zeus are the same being, as are Shiva and Apollo
Communication Type: Undocumented
Origin: Beyond this universe, within the source’s “Orvonton”/”Nebadon” cosmological framework (see Location above)
Life Form Type: Elf-like, angelic beings existing at 10th-to-12th-dimensional levels, per the source’s own framework
Subspecies: Four named races: Ainu-Ra, Mem-Ra, Shin-Ra, and Ashand — not the “Warriors of the Sun”/”Keepers of the Seed” castes previously described here
Most Common Species: Undocumented
Level of Species: Undocumented — no formal “Level XI” tier is supported by the source
Habits: Reported to have seeded life on Earth roughly 500 million years ago, remaining for about 200 million years before departing, and returning later during a period the source associates with the arrival of other races (chiefly from the Pleiades) and describes as Earth being “8-dimensional,” when most humans reportedly stood 10 feet (3 m) tall. The source also describes a claimed skin-color framework of six “races of color” (“Sangrit races”), each with twelve shades tied to the “light gamma” of a given star, in which white-skinned humans are described as “the lightest shade of the blue race.”
Transportation Type: Described only as capable of “stellar jumping” between universes in about an hour. No “merkaba” craft or any named ship type appears in the source.
Witnesses Reports: This entire account originates from a single pseudonymous online poster, “Frenzy 4444,” in a 2013 post on the Above Top Secret (ATS) forum. No named witness, encounter, or independent corroboration exists, and the reviewing source explicitly notes that “much of this view lacks credibility.”
Special Features/Characteristics: The source describes an ancient rebellion in Andromeda led by a Draconian figure it calls “Satan” (explicitly distinguished from “Lucifer,” described as a separate being), which the Paa Tal are said to have eventually put down, pushing the Draco out of Andromeda and into the Milky Way, where they settled in Alpha Draconis and formed an alliance the source calls the “Anchara Alliance,” together with the Archons, Anunnaki, and Greys.
Summary/Description: The Paa Tal, or “P’tal,” are described in a single, low-credibility 2013 online account as four distinct, ancient, elf-like races — Ainu-Ra, Mem-Ra, Shin-Ra, and Ashand — who seeded life on Earth roughly 500 million years ago, fought an ancient war against Draconian forces, and reincarnate across history as mythological figures. The account’s own reviewer explicitly assesses it as lacking credibility, and it should be read as a single, unverified internet claim rather than established fact.
Source: Frenzy 4444, “Who are the Paa Tal? Let’s Put Them into Perspective,” Above Top Secret website, 2013 Mar 2 — as reviewed and explicitly assessed as low-credibility in Jake Muller, A Guide to ETs/Star Nations and Beings (M–Z), Vol. 2, 2024, pp. 111–114. The terms “Orvonton” and “Nebadon” used in this account are drawn without attribution from The Urantia Book (1955), p. 129.
Related Cases: None documented.
DETAILED REPORT
The entire documented record on the Paa Tal traces to a single 2013 post by a pseudonymous user, “Frenzy 4444,” on the Above Top Secret forum. According to this account, “Paa Tal” is a Draconian word meaning “the insanely strong ones,” referring not to one species but to four distinct races: Ainu-Ra, Mem-Ra, and Shin-Ra — together called “the Golden Ones” or “High Elves,” existing at a 12-dimensional level, standing 12 feet (3.7 m) tall, winged, and resembling angels — and Ashand, a younger “Silver” elf-like race at the 10th-to-11th-dimensional level. The account places their ultimate origin beyond this universe entirely, within a cosmological structure it calls “Orvonton” (containing roughly 1,000 universes) and describes our own universe as “Nebadon” — terms borrowed without credit from the 1955 book The Urantia Book.
The account states that the Paa Tal seeded life on Gaia (Earth) roughly 500 million years ago, remained for about 200 million years, and then departed, tying this timeline loosely to the period when giant fossils are found roughly 280 million years ago. They are said to have returned later, during a period when other races — chiefly from the Pleiades — began settling the solar system, a time the account describes as Earth being “8-dimensional,” when most humans stood roughly 10 feet (3 m) tall. The Paa Tal reportedly chose to incarnate directly into physical form to counter a rebellion that began in Andromeda, led by a Draconian figure the account names as “Satan” (explicitly distinguished from “Lucifer,” described as a separate being). Over a long span of time, the Paa Tal are said to have pushed the Draco out of Andromeda and into the Milky Way, where they settled in Alpha Draconis and formed an alliance with the Archons, Anunnaki, and Greys called the “Anchara Alliance.” The account further claims that the Paa Tal have reincarnated throughout history as well-known mythological figures — stating, for example, that Vishnu and Zeus are the same being, as are Shiva and Apollo — and describes a broader framework of six “races of color,” each with twelve shades tied to the “light gamma” of a given star, under which white-skinned humans are described as the lightest shade of a “blue race.”
This account is treated with explicit skepticism by the source reviewing it, which notes that the narrative diverges considerably from other documented accounts of Earth’s early history (including this archive’s own material on the Anunnaki/Zha.a.mi and the Els), that several of its central claims are unexplained or undocumented even within its own telling, and that its author offers no explanation for how this information came to be known beyond stating that “some of us are still here and we remember this.”
RESEARCHER’S NOTES
Paa Tal — A Single Forum Post Behind an Entire Cosmology
- Classification Correction: This entry previously described a uniform, 7’6″–8’4″ tall, luminous “P’tal” species with a full biometric panel, named subspecies (“Warriors of the Sun,” “Keepers of the Seed”), a “Level XI” classification, merkaba craft, and an operational role intercepting nuclear missiles in 2026. None of this appears in the source, which instead describes four distinct named races, no craft technology beyond “stellar jumping,” and no nuclear-interception role of any kind. All fabricated detail has been removed.
- Source Chain Assessment: This entry rests entirely on a single anonymous internet forum post, explicitly assessed by the reviewing source as lacking credibility. This is one of the weakest evidentiary bases in this archive, and the entry is presented accordingly — as a documented claim, not as reliable information.
- Pattern Context / Comparative Cases: The unattributed borrowing of “Orvonton” and “Nebadon” from The Urantia Book is a notable and specific instance of uncredited source-mixing within the account itself — a caution for readers that even the account’s own cosmological framework is not original to it.
- Physical Evidence / Evidentiary Weight: No physical, documentary, or corroborating evidence of any kind supports this account. It should be read strictly as one individual’s unverified internet claim.
- Geographic and Historical Context: The account’s timeline claims (500-million-year seeding, 280-million-year giant fossils, an “8-dimensional” Earth) are not reconciled with mainstream geological or archaeological chronology, and are presented here as reported claims rather than established history.
What survives here is not a documented alien species but a single, explicitly low-credibility internet account describing four ancient elf-like races, a war with the Draco dating to Andromeda, and a chain of mythological reincarnations. The angelic nuclear-guardian species this page previously described has no basis in that account at all.
“Paa Tal” is said to be a Draconian word meaning “the insanely strong ones.”



