THINK ABOUTIT’S ALIEN TYPE SUMMARY

Insiders

“Insiders” is this database’s umbrella term for humans said to live and work inside classified Deep Underground Military Bases (DUMBs) as part of a rumored “breakaway civilization.” Real named individuals have made public claims along these lines — Phil Schneider, Bob Lazar, and Dan Burisch chief among them — and this entry keeps their claims attached to their names and credibility record rather than treating them as settled fact. One key correction: “Alternative 3,” repeatedly cited as source material for this idea, is a documented 1977 hoax broadcast, not a real leaked government plan, and its own novelization’s author admitted as much in writing.

Name: Insiders

AKA: Breakaway Civilization, Secret Government, DUMB Residents — all informal terms used across this genre, not fixed designations from any single named source.

Location – Home System: Earth — rumored Deep Underground Military Bases (DUMBs), with additional unverified claims of lunar and Martian outposts.

Attitude: Described across this genre’s claims as highly secretive and compartmentalized — a description of the rumored culture, not a verified trait.

Motives: As described by named claimants: preservation of advanced technology, self-described “survival” planning, and control of the DUMB network’s resources.

Physical Appearance: Human. No physical differences from ordinary humans are claimed by named sources; the ranges below are simply typical human physiological ranges, not evidence of anything distinctive about this group.

Average Height / Weight / Body Temperature / Pulse / Blood Pressure / Life Expectancy: Standard human ranges, per no source in particular — these are not claims made by any named witness about “Insiders” specifically, and are included only as generic human baselines rather than documented facts about this group.
Hair / Skin / Eyes: Human standard. Claims of “sun-starved” pallor and Vitamin D deficiency among long-term subterranean personnel are a plausible-sounding but unsourced inference, not a documented finding from any named account.

Sex: Male and female, per human standard. “Specialized sterile biological drones” does not appear in any named source and has been removed.

Special Traits and Abilities: “Project Looking Glass” is a real named claim, most associated with Bob Lazar’s public statements about time-viewing technology at S-4 — it remains entirely unverified and Lazar’s own claims about it are disputed. “Neuro-interface pilot systems for TR-3B craft” — the TR-3B (“Black Manta”) is itself an unconfirmed rumored aircraft with no official documentation; treat any technical claim about it as unverified rumor, not established fact.

Communication Type: Not specified by any named source beyond standard human communication plus rumored encrypted systems.

Origin: Described in this genre as arising from the Earth-based military-industrial complex. Specific claims of “masonic clandestine societies” as an origin point are unsourced and have been softened accordingly — see Researcher’s Notes.

Life Form Type: Human, with some claimants alleging a hybrid component; no source specifies a verified biological difference.

Subspecies: “Surface Liaisons,” “DUMB Technicians,” and “Off-World Colonists” are this archive’s own descriptive categories, not terms used by any named claimant, and are presented as such rather than as an established internal hierarchy.

Most Common Species: Homo sapiens.

Level of Species: No such grading system appears in any named source. “Level II” was invented for this page and has been removed.

Habits: Described across this genre’s claims as highly compartmentalized, with individual workers allegedly unaware of the broader scope of what they work on — a claim made by Phil Schneider among others, unverified.

Transportation Type: Claimed magnetic-levitation rail systems between bases; the TR-3B and “Jump Room” teleportation are unconfirmed rumors associated respectively with various unnamed black-budget-technology claims and with Andrew D. Basiago’s separately made and separately disputed claims — not confirmed technology.

Witnesses Reports: Phil Schneider (claimed DUMB construction engineer and Dulce firefight survivor; died in January 1996, officially ruled a suicide by the Clackamas County coroner, though his ex-wife and some researchers dispute this finding; his claims about Dulce have never been independently verified and significant inconsistencies in his stated background have been raised by other researchers); Bob Lazar (claimed reverse-engineering work at S-4 near Area 51; a real, named, long-public figure whose claims remain contested, particularly around his stated academic credentials); Dan Burisch (a real named figure whose claims are widely regarded by other UFO researchers as unsubstantiated and linked to a disputed “Majestic” document controversy). None of these accounts have been independently corroborated.

Special Features/Characteristics: Claimed biometric access systems and counter-surveillance technology — unverified, per the named claimants above.

Summary/Description: A term for humans (and, per some claimants, human-hybrids) alleged to live and work inside a network of classified Deep Underground Military Bases, tied in popular conspiracy literature to the “Alternative 3” scenario. Alternative 3 requires a direct correction: it is not an investigated leak. It was a 1977 British television hoax (Anglia Television’s “Science Report”), written as fiction by David Ambrose and explicitly acknowledged as such by its broadcaster; Leslie Watkins’s 1978 tie-in novelization was, in Watkins’s own words in a later letter, “FICTION BASED ON FACT” used as “a launchpad for a HIGH DIVE INTO FICTION.” Citing it as source material for a real underground civilization misrepresents its own origin. (Corrected — see Researcher’s Notes.)

Related Cases: Overlaps with this database’s Dulce Base and Reptilian/Grey entries via Phil Schneider’s claims.

DETAILED REPORT

“Insiders” as a category rests on the claims of a small number of named individuals rather than any single investigated case. Phil Schneider, a geological/structural engineer, spent roughly the last two years of his life (1994–96) lecturing publicly about a claimed 17-year black-budget career building Deep Underground Military Bases, including an alleged 1979 firefight with Grey entities during excavation of the Dulce, New Mexico base — a battle he said killed dozens and left him with lost fingers and radiation exposure. He was found dead in his Wilsonville, Oregon apartment in January 1996; the Clackamas County coroner ruled the death a suicide by self-strangulation, a finding his ex-wife and some researchers have publicly disputed, citing missing lecture materials and the absence of a note, while other researchers who have reviewed the case, including a former New Mexico state police officer who investigated Dulce-area reports, have concluded Schneider’s account does not hold up and that no physical evidence for the Dulce base itself has ever surfaced. Both the claims and the death remain genuinely disputed, and this entry does not resolve that dispute one way or the other.

Bob Lazar and Dan Burisch are the other two most commonly cited named sources for this material. Lazar’s claims about reverse-engineering alien technology at a facility he calls “S-4” near Area 51 are extensively documented and have drawn both defenders and critics over decades, with unresolved questions about his stated academic history. Burisch’s claims are more broadly regarded within the UFO research community itself as unsubstantiated, tied to a controversial and disputed set of “Majestic” documents. Citing “various Secret Space Program whistleblowers” as a blanket category, as the previous version of this page did, obscures how differently credible (or not) these specific named individuals actually are.

The most important correction concerns “Alternative 3,” repeatedly invoked as grounding for this entire category. It is not a suppressed real document. It was a scripted 1977 mockumentary broadcast by the UK’s Anglia Television as an April Fools’ joke (delayed to June by a labor dispute), written by David Ambrose, with a full actor cast list shown in the closing credits. Anglia issued a statement identifying it as a hoax shortly after broadcast. The following year, journalist Leslie Watkins wrote a tie-in novelization; in a later letter, Watkins himself described his own book as “FICTION BASED ON FACT” that used real anxieties as “a launchpad for a HIGH DIVE INTO FICTION.” Treating “Alternative 3” as a real leaked government scenario, rather than acknowledged fiction that later conspiracy writers (notably Jim Keith) chose to argue was “secretly true,” misrepresents the source at its foundation.

RESEARCHER’S NOTES

Insiders — Naming Sources Honestly, Including the Hoax

Classification correction: An invented species-grading level, invented named subspecies, and an unsourced “biological drone” claim have been removed. Most importantly, “Alternative 3” has been correctly identified as an acknowledged 1977 television hoax and its own novelist’s admitted fiction, not source material for a real scenario.
Source chain assessment: This entry rests on the individually varying credibility of three named claimants (Schneider, Lazar, Burisch), none independently corroborated, plus a piece of admitted broadcast fiction that later writers chose to treat as secretly true. These are three very different evidentiary situations and should not be blended into one undifferentiated “whistleblower” category.
Evidentiary weight: Low across the board. No physical evidence for the Dulce base or any DUMB has ever been produced; Schneider’s account has specific credibility problems raised by independent researchers; Burisch’s claims are widely considered discredited within the field itself; Lazar’s claims remain contested but have at least drawn sustained, serious independent investigation.
Pattern context: The “breakaway civilization” concept draws heavily on genuinely fictional source material (Alternative 3) being retroactively read as suppressed truth — a documented pattern (see also Michael Barkun’s academic work on this specific case) in how conspiracy literature absorbs acknowledged hoaxes.
Geographic/historical context: Claimed DUMB sites (Dulce NM, Denver International Airport, the Black Hills of South Dakota) are longstanding fixtures of this specific conspiracy genre; none have documented physical evidence beyond the claims themselves.

The “Insiders” concept is built from three real, named people making very different kinds of claims, none independently verified, plus a piece of British television fiction that got mistaken for fact and stayed mistaken for nearly fifty years. Keeping Schneider, Lazar, and Burisch’s claims attached to their names — and keeping Alternative 3 correctly labeled as the hoax it always was — is the honest way to present this entry.